From: gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us (The Voltairian™/Black Jester™/Closet Libertarian™/Riley Bitterman™) Newsgroups: van.general,bc.politics,can.politics,alt.freedom,alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Re: LIBTR: The Only Home I Can Afford.....aaaaaawwwwww!!!!!!! Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:03:22 GMT Organization: Closet Libertarian™/Black Magus™/Bible Thumper™/Blow Load™ Reply-To: spyhunter-navyseal@gov.su.us Message-ID: <3dac02bf.22025773@news.lightspeed.ca> References: <3da6b272.7880971@news.lightspeed.ca> <3da7ef8f.938964@news.lightspeed.ca> <3daab684.10310029@news.lightspeed.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Trace: rsl2.rslnet.net 1034683275 vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca (15 Oct 2002 05:01:15 -0700) Lines: 255 Path: rsl2.rslnet.net Xref: rsl2.rslnet.net van.general:89065 bc.politics:115131 can.politics:126032 alt.freedom:445 alt.politics.libertarian:40884 On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:45:15 GMT, spamme@spammer.com (canadian vegan new age sensitive guy) wrote: >In article <3daab684.10310029@news.lightspeed.ca>, gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us >says... >> >>On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:43:48 GMT, spamme@spammer.com (canadian vegan >>new age sensitive guy) wrote: >> >>>In article <3da7ef8f.938964@news.lightspeed.ca>, gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us >>>says... >>>> >>> >>>>>dont you think you're getting 'libertarian' confused with your true >calling, >>>>>'fascism'? >>>>> >>>>>why would you cross post this to alt.freedom, anyway? seems like it >belongs >>>on >>>>>alt.anti-freedom. I guess we're just lucky nobody reads alt.freedom to >jump >>>on >>>>>your troll. >>>> >>>>Oh I suppose abusing and sleazing off of someone elses well earned >>>>property and abusing their property rights is Libertarian? >>> >>>it is government property that is currently vacant. I can't think of a more >>>libertarian initiative than taking it for personal property. >> >>As far as I know it isn't government property, it's just government >>managed. and by who's order I don't know, but it shouldn't be. > >Well of course as far as YOU know, because you are RETARDED. The government of >British Columbia owns the Woodwards building, the parkinglot, the elevator >shafts, the fixtures, and everything else on that site. > > >>And if >>it is the non-anarchistic way to go about it and the Libertarian way >>would be for the government to sell it to a big business profiteer >>like I would do. > >Thats not the 'libertarian way', asshole! Aw hell, maybe it is since most >Libertarians are pricks just like you hiding behind the word 'libertarian' to >promote the standard corporate suck-up party line. You should really preface >your subjects with [CORP SUCK UP] Not a party line, but yes, pro-corporate and anti-stock market. The stock market free traders are there too, but that's just as a banner. Big Business = Employment Small Business = Employment Average Bussiness = Employment Efficient Business = Secure Employment. >>Not let some scum sit around in it without homes or >>claims of taxpayership. Why should the tax payers paay to keep you >>living for free anyway? > >me? I'm not a woodwards squatter, idiot. And the squatters did not buy the >building with taxdollars, the government did. So your beef is with them, not >the squatters. What the squatters are doing is a pure anarcho-libertarian >action. It's with both. There on the top of the Libertarian chain, not the center, so they are imbalanced I guess. Upper left, Upper Right, or Upper Middle. >>>Did you just learn what 'libertarian' ment last week? Because I've seen you >>>post to van.general for several years, and you've only started this [LIBTR] >>>nonsense in your headers, and crossposting to alt.politics.libertarian, in >the >>>last week or so. >> >>No, I've appearently been that way life long, with a few philosophical >>struggles. I am not a partisan, I am a philosopher. >> > >actually you're a half-baked ego smothered in retard sauce How clever, I thought the term retard was reserved for seven graders and Canaanites. I didn't know your name was Eric Cartman (on the comedy network wednessday and friday at 9:30 and Comedy Central.). >>Buying property is Libertarian, > >no, buying property is 'capitalist' > >>stealing it is authoritarian. > >no, stealing it is 'criminal' Same thing. >>I doubt it's government land, if >>anything it's part of the industrial spy complex that buys things with >>their primary victim and kept down businessman/NAVY SEAL's name and >>money. > >I realize that running for mayor is a bit of a lark for you, but why does your >entire life have to be a lark? > >>The Libertarian way would be to abolish government >>property ownership rights and do things democratically with a >>constitutional republic. > >And I contend, administered fairly and justly, that such a system would result >in the squatters getting their building. No a rich or richer man would own the building and he would decide what to do with it, not sqautters or government. Docta Gov. Admr. 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