Path: be05!newsfeeds-atl1!news.usenetserver.com!fe39.usenetserver.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: hypocritouter@seal.navy.buggeredbynsc.int.nwo.gov (Gölök Z.L.F Buday, AKA The Absent Mind™ AKA Rev. Lucy Für™ AKA Phil Landers™) Newsgroups: bc.politics,van.general,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.freedom,alt.freespeech,can.politics,alt.mindcontrol Subject: EMail-FWD----> Government Waist. { [DAWN Ontario] Toronto Star Article, May 10, 2004 } [LBTR] [LIBTR] [MDIA] [MHT] [CIA] [TM] [NSA] [NLP] [LP] [CAR87] [NSC] [LIBERPHRENIA] [ANTIRAPEPHRENIA] [CREDAPHRENIA] [HUMORPHRENIA] [MORALPHREENIA] [ANTISPYPHRENIA] [USCONSTITUTIONALISTPHRENIA] [ANTIESPIONAPHRENIA] Keywords: The Voltairian,The Pyromaniac Of Madison County,Libertarian,LIBTR,Reform Party of,Pat Buchanan,Buday,G. 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Kathleen Williams" Subject: [DAWN Ontario] Toronto Star Article, May 10, 2004 -----Body---- Dear Women! This is encouraging but and I mean a big but .... the proof is in the pudding and right now the pudding is sadly lacking dollars. I get a little angry at all the 'studies' done and yet the dollars seem to get held up. It takes money to do the studies ..... why not put that money in the seemingly empty barrel so that welfare reform really starts to be a reality to those scraping by in unimaginable poverty situations! No Surrender, Kathleen, M. Kathleen Williams LoyalRock@nobodtsympatico.ca Sound footing for welfare reform CAROL GOAR Deb Matthews hopes to "blast to smithereens" the stereotype of a welfare recipient as a lazy, able-bodied bum. The rookie MPP from London is on a province-wide tour to find out what's wrong with Ontario's social assistance system, what can be done to fix it and how it feels to live on welfare. She's only halfway through her 12-city journey, but she's sure of one thing: No one wants to stay on welfare. It's a miserable, degrading existence. And politicians have made it worse by stigmatizing those who need help. "We can't tolerate this," Matthews says. "We've been putting down people on social assistance for too long. "I think our government should be judged on how well we help our most vulnerable citizens." These are welcome words, coming from Queen's Park after nine years of shrinking welfare payments, punitive rules, humiliating eligibility tests and snide cracks about beer-drinking welfare mothers and drug-addicted handout seekers. Matthews, who is parliamentary assistant to Community and Social Services Minister Sandra Pupatello, asked for this assignment. She wanted to overhaul a part of government that was clearly out of step with her values and those of her party. Her report will not be ready in time for next week's budget. Nor will it call for a massive infusion of cash, to the dismay of many anti-poverty groups. Matthews' objective is to produce a 10-year blueprint for social assistance reform, identifying steps the government can take immediately and longer-term changes. "It's going to be easier to write than I thought because the themes that are coming through are so strong and consistent," she says. "The people who work in the system know what needs to be done." The first imperative, Matthews says, is to rid the system of the crude stereotypes that are preventing caseworkers from dealing with the real-life problems that clients face. "There is no one-size-fits-all solution," Matthews says. "These are people with a variety of barriers in their lives. Otherwise, they wouldn't be on social assistance." Unfortunately, many of the stereotypes that Matthews is talking about — the selfish freeloader, the negligent single mother, the would-be cheater — are built right into the $240 million computer program designed for the previous government by the multinational consulting firm Accenture. Matthews won't say what she thinks the ministry should do with its costly, judgment-laden software, but she notes with a smile that front-line workers in many communities have found ways to outsmart it. The second thrust of her report will be that the system is overburdened with onerous rules, time-consuming verification procedures and excessive documentation. "Our caseworkers spend too much time photocopying and not enough time giving people the help they need," she says. "They have stayed in the system because they want to do social work, not paperwork." Matthews will recommend that the government simplify its convoluted application process, speed up the delivery of benefits and free caseworkers to treat clients like human beings. Her third message will be that individuals need support, not lectures or coercion, to move from social assistance to work. That means affordable housing, accessible child care, transit fare, job training and drug and dental benefits. In the case of immigrants, it means help getting Canadian work experience. In the case of clients with health problems or addictions, it means finding proper treatment and counselling. "When things fall apart, it's never just one problem," Matthews says. "Everything the government does is linked." Her final argument will be that public attitudes have to change. It is simply wrong, Matthews says, to equate poverty with laziness, irresponsibility or failure. It is unacceptable to look down on people who need social assistance. Most are coping with nightmares the comfortable majority could barely imagine. Matthews' research began in Scarborough on April 14 and will end in Chatham in early June. By then, she will have heard from roughly 200 social assistance recipients, local caseworkers, ministry officials, low-income advocates, employers and labour representatives. "We're pretty excited about some of the things we'll be recommending," Matthews said. Whether they'll be adopted, who knows? Although she has only been a member of the Legislature for seven months, Matthews has credentials that will give her proposals extra weight. She is president of the Ontario Liberal Party. Her brother-in-law is former premier David Peterson. She chaired the party's election campaigns in 1987 and 1995. Matthews doesn't want to raise unrealistic expectations. She is a backbencher and money is tight. But she can promise the province's poorest citizens that their views will be reflected in whatever she submits, their dignity will be respected by her government and their lives will start to get better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carol Goar's column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<> DAWN Ontario Women with disAbilities e-list * List norms & F.A.Q. Page: http://dawn.thot.net/list.html * To change delivery option: dawnontario@nobodtsympatico.ca Members who post to this list retain their copyright and do not grant license to others to forward any message posted here, off the list, unless otherwise indicated in the post. Members grant the list manager permission to maintain an archive of list messages, accessible to subscribed members only. Other use of e-mail to this list requires the permission of individual writers. <>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DAWN-Ontario/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DAWN-Ontario-unsubscribenobodt@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Checks out, all clear! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 05/09/2004 ----------------------Thread 00,000000.000000,00-------------------------------- To: From: "Barbara Anello" Subject: [DAWN Ontario] Toronto Star Article, May 10, 2004 -----Body---- What that article doesn't tell you is that Deb Matthews horse and pony show is by invitation only! And just whom do you think they are going to invite to their consultation? I'll tell you, they invited primarily rubber stampers, many from agencies who are funded through provincial dollars and/or district social services admin boards. You can beat your sweet buns she didn't invite me to the consultation she did in North Bay about 2 weeks ago that one of our list members managed to wrangle an invitation to as Terry is well connected across party lines. And Ms Matthews made it perfectly clear that adequacy of rates was not up for discussion! If she truly wants to help low income people who live well below the poverty line, then she ought to recommend to her government that they raise social assistance rates in Ontario by 40% to make up for the 21.6% that Mike Harris cut from social assistance in 1995 and another 18% for inflation! And she can bloody well recommend to her government that they STOP clawing back the National Child Tax Benefit from Social Assistance and ODSP benefits! That fund was established to assist low income families with children but the Ontario government claws it back from the people who need it most because they think they can put the money to better use. With UNMANAGEABLE utility bills low income people are driving further into poverty and it is forcing sole support parents to choice between feeding their kids or paying the rent or hydro bill. It's shameful in this land of plenty that our most vulnerable people are treated like 3rd class citizens! No one CHOOSES to live in poverty. Deb Matthews is talking out of her ass if she thinks that addressing the stigma issue is going to help people pay their rent and hydro bills. What that's intended to do is shift the focus on the previous government - the Tories - who rose to power on the backs of their welfare reforms stigmatizing welfare recipients as welfare bums and welfare cheats. In reality, the Liberals are not all that different than the Tories because at the end of the day, they stoop to the similar tactics but at the least the Tories said it straight. Cheers Barbara Anello anello@nobodtvianet.ca ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/pDHolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> <>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<> DAWN Ontario Women with disAbilities e-list * List norms & F.A.Q. Page: http://dawn.thot.net/list.html * To change delivery option: dawnontarionobodt@sympatico.ca Members who post to this list retain their copyright and do not grant license to others to forward any message posted here, off the list, unless otherwise indicated in the post. Members grant the list manager permission to maintain an archive of list messages, accessible to subscribed members only. Other use of e-mail to this list requires the permission of individual writers. <>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<>--<> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DAWN-Ontario/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DAWN-Ontario-unsubscribe@nobodtyahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Checks out, all clear! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 05/09/2004 ----------------------Thread 00,000000.000000,01-------------------------------- To: "DAWN list" From: aletta Subject: Re: [DAWN Ontario] Toronto Star Article, May 10, 2004 -----Body---- Whoah! $240,000,000.00 for a lousy database program, which is seriously flawed? Perspective, this could have been spread around to make every Canadian a millionaire. everyone of us could have seed money for a business or project -- hey, no one in need of welfare!! How many Canadians does Accenture employ? So we starve while this consulting firm lives the high life? I suspect this is why public schools taught new math, so they could sneak these right be everyone's noses!). I am livid (rapidly becoming my natural state. If anyone is in position to get some answers... For the record, my dignity is intact, but my clothes are worn and I am down to one meal a day, BC - beaucoup de constipation - is no better, possibly worse. At 15:34 05/10/2004, you wrote: Unfortunately, many of the stereotypes that Matthews is talking about — the selfish freeloader, the negligent single mother, the would-be cheater — are built right into the $240 million computer program designed for the previous government by the multinational consulting firm Accenture. ...But she can promise the province's poorest citizens that their views will be reflected in whatever she submits, their dignity will be respected by her government and their lives will start to get better. --- Checks out, all clear! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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[MLA] Clark driving an ambulance as a "Team" Player.It was on Woodlands @ Hastings I think. _____________________________________________________________________ [..] Docta Gov. Admr. Count Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; PhG™/D Aka The Pyromaniac of Madison County. Writer, Humorist [The Absent Mind], and everything else under the moon. [Also said to be a multi-trilionare businessman and Navy SEAL] Vancouver, Neo Sumer/Olympia, Washington/Who knows where else... X-Links The Official Black Jester Website: http://www.blackjester.com/ My Ego Times: http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/ R-LPoV aka C.R.E.E.D. http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/Vancouver.Elections/C.R.E.E.D/ Dictionary: http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/dictionary/ Jim Akwei Vs. 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Nietzsche -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "As you have the power, sir, to do some service to letters, I implore you not to clip the wings of our writers so closely, nor turn into barndoor fowls those who, allowed a start, might become eagles; reasonable liberty permits the mind to soar--slavery makes it creep." -- Voltaire [A Letter To A First Commissioner] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A: Yes, yes. There is a natural law, and it does not consist either in doing harm to others or in rejoicing thereat. -- [FMA] Voltaire; Phil. Dict. -- Natural Law. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An itinerant bookseller does not burden himself with a Virgil, with a Horace, but with a new book, even though it be detestible. He draws a you aside and says to you: "Sir, do you want some books from Holland?" [FMA] Voltaire; Phil. Dict. -- New Novelties (Trends and Fads to Prechew). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Chance is a word void of meaning, nothing happens without a cause." -- Voltaire; Phil. Dict. -- Chance -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Cool, like popular, is a word that is often associated with self betrayal." -- Gölök Buday, 2003 aka The Absent Mind -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "One should stat clear of comparing one self to others to feel like scum, one should compare themselves to what they could be or what they were for that; the same could be said about feeling good about one self." -- Gölök Buday, 2003 aka The Absent Mind -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "When the poison's pusher uses the poison, you can be sure he has and has used the antidote." -- Gölök Buday, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it. -P.J. O'Rourke -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There may not be an 'I' in team, but there is an 'I' in Libertarian (in fact 2)" -- Gölök Buday, April of 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...I would have wished that no one in the state that could claim he was above the law, and that no one from outside the state could dictate a law [Fuck the UN] that the state was obliged to recognize. For regardless of how the government is formally constituted, if there is a single man not subject to the law, all the others are necessarily at that man's mercy." -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; To The Republic Of Geneva: Discourse On Inequality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...It follows that if in such a fortunate situation it (the country/ state) would have nothing to fear but itself, and if citizens were trained in arms, it would be more for maintaining that soldiery spirit and noble courage that are so well suited for freedom and cultivate the taste for it rather than from the necessity for it's citizens' actual defence. -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; To The Republic Of Geneva: Discourse On Inequality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom can only exist if all laws apply to all people." -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; possible paraphrase. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Think, it's not illegal yet." -- George Clinton -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "He who loves himself became great in himself, and he who loved others became great through his devotion, and he who loved God became greater than all." -- Sřren Kierkegaard -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Life must be lived forwards, but it can only be understood backwards" -- Sřren Kierkegaard -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Press That Is Not Free Isn't A Press At All" -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Government, Of All Things, Is To Be Questioned And Inspected" -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "At The Very Least, Insanity Isn't Unsanitary" -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "it is an abomination for a person's tax dollars to be used to further a faith to which he does not subscribe. You want to pray, go to church. Nobody's objecting." -- Thomas Jefferson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am the first Prime Minister of this country of neither altogether English nor French origin. So I determined to bring about a Canadian citizenship that knew no hyphenated consideration." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 29, 1958, Maclean's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We shall never build the nation which our potential resources make possible by dividing ourselves into Anglophones, Francophones, multiculturalphones, or whatever kind of phoneys you choose. I say: Americans, first, last, and always!" - Gölök Buday, Purposely misquoting the Chiefs Quote For His Own Agenda (2002). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 11, 1958 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "As long as there is a drop of blood in my body they won't stop me from talking about freedom." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, June 3, 1962, Sudbury, Ontario. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom includes the right to say what others may object to and resent... The essence of citizenship is to be tolerant of strong and provocative words." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, April 9, 1970, House of Commons. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I Am A Surrealists" -- What Salvador Dali Said When Asked Why He Didn't Belong To The Surrealists (this may be true, regarding why actors tend not to belong to the Group of Actors and Libertarians don't always belong to the Libertarian Party.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I wish to preach not the doctrine of ignoble ease but the doctrine of the strenuous life" -- Theodore Rooseveldt [IV-10-1899, Chicago, IL] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I prefer to go to church, not have church come to me." -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's almost as if he [Bill Clinton] spent 8 years pissing all over the presidency and on his last day went, 'oh! missed a spot." -- Lewis Black on Rich Pardon, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Honesty Makes An Opinion Important, Dishonesty Makes It Irrelevant (unimportant even)" -- Gölök Buday; 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "An Opinion, Like An Axe, Is Only As Good As The Person Who Wields It." -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Value Of A Comment Derives From The Honesty Of The Orator And/Or Writer." -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Height Of Genius Is The Ability To Conceal It." -- George Bernard Shaw -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[To My Fellow-Citizens of the United States of America I put the following work under your protection. It contains my opinion on religion.] You will do me justice to remember that I have always strenuously supported the right to his own opinion, however different that opinion may be to mine. He who denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it." -- Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There Is A Difference Between Community Involvement and Being Involved (Or A Part Of) In A Community." -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We trained hard but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing. And what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing inefficiency, confusion and demoralization." -- Gaius Petronius Arbiter, 1st century AD; Satyricon. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If You Have A Lawsuit, Your Goods, Your Honor, Your Very Life Depends On The Very Interpretation Of A Book You Never Read." -- Francois "Voltaire" Marie Arouet; Phil. Dictionary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Suppression Of A Word Is What Gives It Power." -- Lenny Bruce. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Window Peepers, Authoritarians In General, Tend To Be The Biggest Scoundrels." -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes, It's Not A Good Idea To Listen For, But A Good Question." -- Gölök Buday. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Small Government's A Start" -- Gölök Buday. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Funny how diversity is ok unless it's of opinion or philosophical." -- Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; On "Divisive Opinions and Issues;" December 2nd, 2002. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I rather have one competant employee, than a million incompetent ones, one competent something than a million incompetent something; and criminality counts as incompetance in business as well." -- Gölök Z. 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