From: eccliesiastes2010@yahoo.com (eccliesiastes-JamesRose) Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol Subject: Interview with Former illuminatist Date: 17 Oct 2002 02:38:03 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 193 Message-ID: <10ac1ac7.0210170138.4370f088@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.3.179.220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1034847483 27469 127.0.0.1 (17 Oct 2002 09:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Oct 2002 09:38:03 GMT Path: rsl2.rslnet.net!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: rsl2.rslnet.net alt.mindcontrol:3428 The Illuminati Exclusive Interview with an Ex-Illuminati Programmer/Trainer Part 15 - TV - The Perfect Mindcontrol Device - Q: Svali, what role does television play? From your point of view, as an ex-Illuminati trainer/programmer, how much of a mindcontrol device 'really' is it? How does it interact with the brain, what sounds and images are used for programming? What makes TV the perfect mindcontrol device for the masses? Give us some details please. Svali: It is important to realize that when a person watches TV, they go into an alpha brain wave state, in which they are more suggestible than normal. In fact, a LOT of Illuminati programming is done in alpha state, since the person is relaxed and highly suggestible. Have you ever noticed the glazed expression on the face of a person who has been watching TV for any length of time? This is from being in prolonged alpha state, and a semi dissociative state (and this is for people who HAVE NOT been raised with mind control). Also, remember those studies that stated that "TV violence doesn't affect children's behaviour" years ago? Guess who funded them? They are a bunch of bullcrud. What a person watches DOES influence them, and this is well known by the behaviourists in the group. In fact, they know that TV is a tool that they purposely use to influence "the masses". It cannot create a total personality change in the average citizen, but it can desensitize us increasingly to violence, pornography and the occult, and influence the perceptions of young children. Most cartoons have a subtle message as well as subliminal ones meant to influence the next generation of children, destroy family values and old fashioned "morality" as being "Christian Right" or "prejudiced" or "politically incorrect'. TV today has a profound influence on our society, and especially young children. How many parents have delegated it as their children's babysitter, yet have no idea what their children watch? I am horrified at times to hear about the movies that my 12 year old son tells me his friends have watched : movies that depict mass murders, violence, and occult evil. I would never let an impressionable child watch the Matrix, Fight Club, or the new Exorcist, for example, or the "slasher movies" that are so popular among some teens. Sounds and images include: flashing images and constant changes (such as with MTV videos, for example, or many of the new ads); certain tones are played on some shows, or even the theme of the show, if it glorifies the occult, such as many of the popular shows depicting a cute young teen witch as the heroine, or vampires and demonic shape shifting. Q: What are some of the major Illuminati inspired shows running on TV, or the ones carrying an Illuminati message and what clues identify them as such? Svali: The media is so infiltrated, a better question is which ones DON'T promote their agenda? See the above, also: Saturday morning cartoons that show animals/people morphing (a well known occult phenomena), or that glorify the concepts of "Earth, Water, Fire" (the Magickal Elements); or those that blatantly show mind control techniques (even video games, such as Tomb Raider, or "Metal Gear Solid" show training chairs and people being tortured, which surprised and saddened me. The hero has to "rescue" the person before they are tortured to death... I would guess that 90% of current cartoons have mystical/occult themes that are geared to catch children and subtly indoctrinate them to accept: animal guides or spirit guides, the idea of training (even cute little Pokemons turn from docile creatures into snarling demonic fighters after their "trainer" helps them change, which is too close for comfort for me to what the Illuminists do to docile children). I personally don't watch much TV, for this very reason. I might watch a National Geographic special once in awhile, or rarely a movie on the Comedy channel, but otherwise, I avoid it. I heard too many discussions during leadership meetings and with other behaviourists in the group about how it was being used to subtly influence the masses without their even suspecting it. I choose to step away from this influence. Look at what TV depicted in the 1940s and 1950s, and what is accepted now as okay, to chronicle the slow moral decline of our society. Q: How about the influence of pop music? Does it pose a danger, is it used as a mindcontrol medium? I believe Cathy O'Brien, a CIA mindcontrol slave and survivor, implicated the country music scene and a number of singers as being mindcontrol slaves, and names Nashville, Ten. as the center. Svali: Country music may have some, but the rock music industry is much more heavily controlled. I once watched some MTV and could NOT believe what was on it, my mouth fell open from shock. There is a song/video that is very popular right now by CrazyTown, that shows butterfly tattoos all over the people (a sign of Monarch mind control) while he sings "Come my butterfly"...later he sings about her escaping to a better world, etc. This song is FILLED with programming images. I believe that Brittany Spears, Eminem, and others are being used by them to sing lyrics they like (ever notice that he wears a Neo-Nazi look and sings hate lyrics? This is NOT by chance). In fact, many of the top pop singers come from an internship with the "Micky Mouse club" (yep, good old Walt the Illuminist's Empire) and I believe they are offered stardom in exchange for allegiance or mind control. How many lyrics advocate suicide, violence, despair, or New Age spirituality in pop/rock today? Or just get a copy of the words and read (but be aware that many are possibly triggering to survivors of mind control). Q: Is there any way to undo the mindcontrol damage already done by and through television and music? Svali: Turn it off. Easier said than done. Once the input stops, it isn't constantly reinforced. How many people are almost addicted to their TV time? I also believe that one of the best methods of undoing damage is by replacing negative or false messages with the truth. I go to God's word in daily Bible Study to "renew my mind", as Romans states, and I find this much more healing and uplifting than anything on TV or the pop radio stations. Q: Svali, I am sure you remember the Pokemon seizure scare a few years ago. [Here are some links to refresh your memory: Seizure or Hysteria? Japanese cartoon triggers seizures in hundreds of children.] Did the cartoon producers/animators stumble on this accidentally or was this some kind of public mindcontrol 'test'? Is this something Illuminati programmers are aware of, and use in mindcontrol? What's your opinion on this? Svali: I have no idea if it was intentional or not, since it happened after I left the group, and I never heard any discussion about it. But I will tell you that I do NOT let my son watch Pokemon, even when he tells me that "all his friends do". I believe the show has strongly demonic undertones (why do the eyes of the characters turn "red" when they morph into their fighting mode, which seems very much like a person in fighting mode who has gone through mind control with demonic overlays?). I can't stand the show myself, in spite of Picachu's popularity, and am saddened that it had the effect that it did on children. I do know that the alpha wave effect I mentioned before means that yes, the children ARE "totally immersed" in the program, as noted by the person in one article. Have you ever watched a young child who is watching cartoons like this? Their eyes glaze, their jaw goes slack, and they stop EVERYTHING and even breathe more slowly. Once again, I am not a fan of TV per se for this very reason, and especially for young children. The increased violence in our society can be directly related to the increased exposure to it that the very young have. How many children have learned to laugh at gore and meaningless violence as being "funny"? There is even a popular comedy show on MTV that shows young men abusing their parent and videotaping it for "laughs". I have problems with mindless cruelty to others being funny. Q: Here is an article that you may find of interest: 2001-04-20 25TH SHOT FOUND IN POKEMON CARTOONS Psychologists in the Russia's southern city of Krasnodar have called on the Russian government to ban televising of the Pokemon Japanese cartoon. The cartoon has already been televised on Russia's state-controlled ORT nationwide television network, as many countries, including Japan itself, have tabooed it. Krasodar psychologists assert that a 25th shot system is applied in the cartoon which negatively affects children's subconsciousness. As a result of this shot's impact, a ''neurolinguistic programming'' occurs, or, to put it in other words, zombying. The psychologists characterize this phenomena as the ''intellectual genocide.'' In their view, the cartoon calls for cruelty and aggression, while numerous signs on the heroes' costumes symbolize death. Svali: I'm not sure what the "25th shot system" is, but obviously Russia has recognized it as some sort of subliminal frame set that has a detrimental effect on children (why am I not surprised, I've already shared my opinion of Pokemon...). And Magicke, another card game, is even worse. Also, think of the role playing games that teens get sucked into, such as D&D online, or Diablo, and others. The list goes on. --- Gestalt Art Subliminals Examples-Photos Look for art work within the artwork http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/eccliesiastes2000/lst?.dir=/My+Photos/Gestalt+Art+The+Concept+of+Stereo+Images&.src=ph&.view= James