Path: e420r-atl2.usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl2!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Allen L. Barker" Newsgroups: alt.mindcontrol,alt.politics.org.cia,alt.politics.org.covert Subject: Re: CIA Is Expanding Domestic Operations Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:07:02 -0400 Organization: No Dismay Lines: 71 Message-ID: <3DB658A6.D9FCF283@datafilter.com> References: <3DB63E8B.4A3EA702@datafilter.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.7b.c7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 23 Oct 2002 08:08:48 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-31 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: usenetserver.com alt.mindcontrol:125192 alt.politics.org.cia:133719 alt.politics.org.covert:111663 Be sure also to not forget the CIA's attempts to impose "culture." See e.g. the recent book _The Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters_ by Frances Stonor Saunders. Do you really want the CIA determining the domestic culture? See e.g. the links on the page http://www.datafilter.com/mc/pressCoverups.html Then there is the long trail of suspicious links from the CIA and other intelligence agencies to religious movements like those at Jonestown. The sort of people common in intelligence agencies tend to view religion as nothing but politics -- a way to control people -- and so religious persecution is actually, in their intentions, an attempt at political manipulation. Perhaps their supreme arrogance is imagining that no one else can understand the transparent manipulations they are up to. It is not difficult at all, and they are not that bright. It hinges on a willingness to discard normal notions of humanity while imagining that all other humans cannot see that. Are Americans Christianized into stupidity? I remember understanding Kissenger's smug philosphy as a young man, and I heard Gordon Liddy speak as a first year undergraduate about the true mindset. Do you believe in God? Then you are my psyop sucker; I'll sell you every line of crap I can, including genocide, based on that. See, it is easy. Even when I bluntly tell you this directly you still wonder about it, though you suspect it in your heart. You do not want to believe it. That is a powerful motivation for self- deception. You also have won ten million dollars. But to collect you will have to send me a small $1000 processing fee. Congratulations! "Allen L. Barker" wrote: > > [Don't forget the history. These are the people who brought us > MHCHAOS, MKULTRA, Guatemalan genocide, Phoenix assassinations, and > a host of other openly known programs. Typically by sitting at their > desks as "advisers," drawing up lists, and providing money and weapons. > Who knows what the worst is that is still covered up because it was > so hideous that the limited hangout could not touch it. Some of the > credible testimony of the mind control victims points to the levels of > depravity that have been systematically covered up. The surface level > of politics in the US is shallow indeed, but the coded and deeper level > is what the real people (typically with no voice) will have to live > with. Chickens come home to roost. Look to the sorts of governments > the CIA chose to install in Central and South America when they could > not sufficiently manipulate those "democracies." Could the US become the > next American third world government? Does your vote still count for > anything? If you think you have a real choice, use it. Exercise your > free speech or lose it. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.] > > CIA Is Expanding Domestic Operations > More Offices, More Agents With FBI > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1943-2002Oct22?language=printer > > [...] > > In many cities, according to local FBI special agents, the CIA > employees help plan daily operations and set priorities, as well as share > information about suspected foreigners and groups. They do not, > however, take part in operations or make arrests. > > [...] > > -- > Mind Control: TT&P ==> http://www.datafilter.com/mc > Allen Barker