From: The Voltairian™/Black Jester™/Closet Libertarian™/Riley Bitterman™ Newsgroups: alt.sex.strip-clubs Subject: Re: next2nothing [LIBTR] [ASS-C] Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:34:47 -0700 Organization: Closet Libertarian™/Black Magus™/Bible Thumper™/Blow Load™ Reply-To: spyhunter-navyseal@gov.su.us Message-ID: References: <3d97a548.6748209@news.lightspeed.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial126.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial126.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Trace: rsl2.rslnet.net 1033429521 vandial126.lightspeed.bc.ca (30 Sep 2002 16:45:21 -0700) Lines: 196 Path: rsl2.rslnet.net Xref: rsl2.rslnet.net alt.sex.strip-clubs:87532 On 29 Sep 2002 22:47:15 -0700, nex2nuthin@yahoo.com (nex2nuthin) wrote: >gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us (The Voltairian /Black Jester /Closet Libertarian /Riley Bitterman ) wrote in message news:<3d97a548.6748209@news.lightspeed.ca>... >> You accused me of not wanting to touch or be touched by a lady, > > >I think you accused yourself of that, pal. > > >> and at >> a strip club this is true when a avoidable. > > >It's ALWAYS avoidable. Like I said, that guy holding a gun to your >head & forcing you to do those things ain't coming around anymore, so >you can relax & enjoy yourself now insteada posting here 2500 times a >day. > > >> Accidents do happen. > > >And you're the perfect example of that. > > >> You say you do. > > >Yes I do. > > >> Now since I don't want anything from the dancer, does this not make me >> more impartial then yourself? > > >No, it just makes you more like a Log Cabin Republican than me. I expected to be called a fag. Strange comming from the great over compensator. >The odious thing about your opinion of women--& I think the reason >they want nothing to do with you--is that you view them as children, >incapable of making their own decisions & therefore needing your >fatherly protection. Therefore, you absurdly maintain that women doing >something of their own free will are somehow nevertheless being >"forced" to do it & should be "protected" from themselves! You know, >the same way Stain wanted to "protect" the poor peasants. Maybe the reason you want them your lap that way is because you do think of them as children. I do have confirmation of this "enforced mileage" as you even refered to it at one point, I actually discust it at one point, because I was concerned about her and the other dancers getting it during a by-law enforcement, you never know who's the cop; and you never know who's the boss (owner; actual not figure head) just showing up here and there. >But the truth is really that you use that rationalizing bullshit to >try to hide from yourself how terrified you are of women & how >unworthy you feel in their presence. > >That's why I suggested awhile back that you relax & accept yourself >for who you are insteada putting on this phony front that nobody cares >about anyway. Of course, that's the one post of mine you never >responded to. I guess it hit a little too close to home & was just too >painful to face up to. > >But no--your not desiring women doesn't make you "impartial". It just >makes you an asexual or homosexual moron insteada a heterosexual >moron. You just want women to do with their bodies what you want them to; the independent freedom of a low mileage stage act or air dance is offence to you for just that reason. You can't just enforce your tastes on patrons other than you and you can't force them on dancers; you can't treat someone esle's business as if it's your private club or home and women as your collection of toys. You can't force, now you ignore this one all the time, a person to deny who they are and violate their religious views in return for employment and discriminate against them for that; you also can not violate privacy rights by making them do something that would require them to disclose before hand or during wether or not they are into doing something of a private nature, not pertaining to entertainment (because as much as you ignore it, it's not all T&A); Stripping is a Stage Act, it's been that way since the veils were shimmied, in Zarathustran Arya and Sumer (ancient arabia; 14 to 70 thousand BC); you can't demand those things in return for employment, it violates their constitutional and human rights. Now, maybe your to nerdy to notice this, but a dancer isn't a woman or a lady in the reall world sense, she is a character on stage; now being an entertainer, humorist, artists, etc... myself I may have more of a connection to that world; but I will explain it to you, that woman does not exist, except as a fictitious character, the patron does (one hopes, given my existential view point, if one can not differentiate fiction from reality they have a lack of existance, but this is a journey one has to do for your self, I can't force it, only encourage) as a real person, in the real world, now if you disturb that, the worlds collide and the venue of entertainment is dead, much like the crowds at a high mileage night or strip club in general. A film or tv actor isn't allowed to be comprimised in this fashion, even when faking it with another actor, this because a private life can not be mixed with a proffessional life, and no possibility of discrimination because of willingness or unwillingness to do something of a private nature can not be risked. Sometimes it's not the performer being treated like a child, sometimes it's an employer or a pseudo-employer that is acting like one; a spoiled one. By the way, I understand some ladies read this and others to the fullest of context, so I suggest you read what I write that way as well, if at all. Sometimes I think you just post in response to this because someone else reads it and gives you a summary or refuses to do something as a result. Docta Gov. Admr. Count Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; PhG™/D Aka The Pyromaniac of Madison County. Writer, Humorist, and everything else under the moon. 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