From: gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us (The Voltairian™/Black Jester™/Closet Libertarian™/Riley Bitterman™) Newsgroups: van.general,bc.politics,can.politics,alt.freedom,alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Re: LIBTR: The Only Home I Can Afford.....aaaaaawwwwww!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:27:09 GMT Organization: Closet Libertarian™/Black Magus™/Bible Thumper™/Blow Load™ Reply-To: spyhunter-navyseal@gov.su.us Message-ID: <3daab684.10310029@news.lightspeed.ca> References: <3da6b272.7880971@news.lightspeed.ca> <3da7ef8f.938964@news.lightspeed.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial51.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial51.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Trace: rsl2.rslnet.net 1034598298 vandial51.lightspeed.bc.ca (14 Oct 2002 05:24:58 -0700) Lines: 198 Path: rsl2.rslnet.net Xref: rsl2.rslnet.net van.general:88892 bc.politics:114942 can.politics:125777 alt.freedom:426 alt.politics.libertarian:40825 On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:43:48 GMT, spamme@spammer.com (canadian vegan new age sensitive guy) wrote: >In article <3da7ef8f.938964@news.lightspeed.ca>, gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us >says... >> > >>>dont you think you're getting 'libertarian' confused with your true calling, >>>'fascism'? >>> >>>why would you cross post this to alt.freedom, anyway? seems like it belongs >on >>>alt.anti-freedom. I guess we're just lucky nobody reads alt.freedom to jump >on >>>your troll. >> >>Oh I suppose abusing and sleazing off of someone elses well earned >>property and abusing their property rights is Libertarian? > >it is government property that is currently vacant. I can't think of a more >libertarian initiative than taking it for personal property. As far as I know it isn't government property, it's just government managed. and by who's order I don't know, but it shouldn't be. And if it is the non-anarchistic way to go about it and the Libertarian way would be for the government to sell it to a big business profiteer like I would do. Not let some scum sit around in it without homes or claims of taxpayership. Why should the tax payers paay to keep you living for free anyway? >Did you just learn what 'libertarian' ment last week? Because I've seen you >post to van.general for several years, and you've only started this [LIBTR] >nonsense in your headers, and crossposting to alt.politics.libertarian, in the >last week or so. No, I've appearently been that way life long, with a few philosophical struggles. I am not a partisan, I am a philosopher. >>If >>anything they are authoritarian, maybe in the collective way, maybe in >>a Liberal way, maybe in Conservative way, or maybe just plain >>anarchistsic, I dear fellow am neither. >> > >no you're fascist and authoritarian because you want people who are seizing >government property to be put in jail. That means you want to lock up your own >libertarian brothers, you bastard! No anarchists being ruled and manipulated by collectivists, who in a way are anarchists deep down. Buying property is Libertarian, stealing it is authoritarian. It doesn't matter if the thief is stealing from another thief. I doubt it's government land, if anything it's part of the industrial spy complex that buys things with their primary victim and kept down businessman/NAVY SEAL's name and money. Not to mention anyone else they can. It does not belong to the squatters. The Libertarian way would be to abolish government property ownership rights and do things democratically with a constitutional republic. Docta Gov. Admr. Count Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; PhG™/D Aka The Pyromaniac of Madison County. Writer, Humorist, and everything else under the moon. [Also said to be a multi-trilionare businessman and Navy SEAL] Vancouver, Neo Sumer/Olympia, Washington/Who knows where else... The Official Black Jester Website: http://www.blackjester.com/ My Ego Times: http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/ Dictionary: http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/dictionary/ Election 2002: http://myegotimes.virtualave.net/Vancouver.Elections/2002/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "As you have the power, sir, to do some service to letters, I implore you not to clip the wings of our writers so closely, nor turn into barndoor fowls those who, allowed a start, might become eagles; reasonable liberty permits the mind to soar--slavery makes it creep." -- Voltaire [A Letter To A First Commissioner] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it. -P.J. O'Rourke -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There may not be an 'I' in team, but there is an 'I' in Libertarian (in fact 2)" -- Gölök Buday, April of 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...I would have wished that no one in the state that could claim he was above the law, and that no one from outside the state could dictate a law [Fuck the UN] that the state was obliged to recognize. For regardless of how the government is formally constituted, if there is a single man not subject to the law, all the others are necessarily at that man' mercy." -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; To The Republic Of Geneva: Discourse On Inequality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...It follows that if in such a fortunate situation it (the country/ state) would have nothing to fear but itself, and if citizens were trained in arms, it would be more for maintaining that soldiery spirit and noble courage that are so well suited for freedom and cultivate the taste for it rather than from the necessity for it's citizens' actual defence. -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; To The Republic Of Geneva: Discourse On Inequality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom can only exist if all laws apply to all people." -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau; possible paraphrase. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Think, it's not illegal yet." -- George Clinton -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Press That Is Not Free Isn't A Press At All" -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Government, Of All Things, Is To Be Questioned And Inspected" -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "At The Very Least, Insanity Isn't Unsanitary" -- -- Gölök Buday -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "it is an abomination for a person's tax dollars to be used to further a faith to which he does not subscribe. You want to pray, go to church. Nobody's objecting." -- Thomas Jefferson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am the first Prime Minister of this country of neither altogether English nor French origin. So I determined to bring about a Canadian citizenship that knew no hyphenated consideration." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 29, 1958, Maclean's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We shall never build the nation which our potential resources make possible by dividing ourselves into Anglophones, Francophones, multiculturalphones, or whatever kind of phoneys you choose. I say: Americans, first, last, and always!" - Gölök Buday, Purposely misquoting the Chief's Quote For His Own Agenda (2002). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 11, 1958 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "As long as there is a drop of blood in my body they won't stop me from talking about freedom." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, June 3, 1962, Sudbury, Ontario. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Freedom includes the right to say what others may object to and resent... 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